ABSTRACT
In this article Roger and Imelda talk with each other around the Meta crisis in our world. This is based on a video presentation of a conversation for the 20th Celebration of the Greek Systemic Journal. Metalogos. They explore ways systemic practitioners and thinkers might address some of the pressing issues of the today using the myth of ‘Ariadne’s Thread’ which led the Greek warrior Thessus out of the maze of uncertainty and certain death by the all consumering Minotaur. They ask how we might creatively adapt ourselves to situations of impending non-linear collapse, over which we have little control. In this conversation they draw on ideas from the Bateson’s and other social and environmental thinkers, as well as deep systems thinking and Indigenous wisdom. They explore how we might draw on work with the imaginal and liminal spaces, including the metaphor of the Fifth Province in Irish Mythology, to illustrate how we might co-create practices for different and emerging world.