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“By far the majority of young Māori aren’t involved in the system, but when they do, we just need to make sure we have a system that helps them at the earliest. And the thing that I’d also point to is that we know the aspirations of young Māori … that have become involved in the system, aren’t any different from those that aren’t. They have very high aspirations for their future. And the question is, how can the state, when it has this opportunity to help, help them realise those aspirations?”